"It's never about how many eyes are on something, for me. Like, yeah, would I love to get to a point like that? Sure. But I want people to interact with me, and I want them to ask me questions or I want it to elicit a response. For them to go somewhere or do something."
On this week's episode of The Moonlighters' Club, Shaun resumes his role as co-host as he and Joel sit down with Miles Bergstrom, a visual creative who's making a name for himself as a videographer and photographer.
During the day, Miles hones his skills as a video producer and strategist at a content marketing firm in Boston. After hours, however, he works for himself, landing gigs behind the camera and calling the shots.
Miles hails from the town of Ludlow in Western Massachusetts, where he first developed an appreciation for nature and the great outdoors. He admits that he wasn't the best student in school, but it was there he realized that he was more interested in art than arithmetic. Once he picked up a camera, he knew he had found a tool he could use to build a career with.
Miles' tireless work ethic carried him through college, and his early days in the industry, where only the strong survive. He's seen clients try to skip out on contracts, but his perseverance has allowed him to work on major campaigns for some big names.
The guys cover a lot of ground during this episode, talking about Boston's racial stereotypes, the art of crafting digital content, breaking into the L.A. movie industry, taking hikes, building professional dreams and shifting focuses - and their disdain for boat shoes and lame stock photography.
Listen to learn about what Miles thinks about all of these topics, and about the time a client tried to back out of a contract with him. After the show, keep up with him at @milesbergs on Twitter, Snapchat, and Instagram.